Do you think raising deer and other big game for high-fenced hunts or display should be banned, in light of game farms' role in the spread of CWD and other diseases?
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That's a very interesting question hft ! Should we try to protect our deer herd from CWD, of course we should. Am I in favor of high fence hunting, no I am not. But at which point do we put restrictions on one way of hunting without drawing questions about all forms of hunting ? This falls in line with we sportsmen who haggle over the different forms of hunting weapons, traditional, compounds, crossbows, deer rifles, etc, etc ! If anyone can come up with a common ground answer, I am all ears.
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Believe it or not, my answer is no...it should not be banned(but to be technical..shooting an animal enclosed in a fence is not "hunting"). I disagree with it, but as long as the animals are kept healthy it would be no different than having someone come out and shoot a cow in a field. The "hunting" aspect has nothing to do with disease. The problem comes when people try to cut costs(not providing medical attention, etc) or look for shortcuts to get bigger animals to make more money(transporting mature bucks, etc). I do believe there should be HEAVY requirements to prove that all the animals are healthy and all fencing etc are up to snuff to prevent crossing with wild population.
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I'm inclined to agree with Richard's point about a ban on one form of hunting opening the door to doubt about any form of hunting -- but I actually think that the high-fence/game farm issue should be separate from the other things we tolerate within our ranks. Simply put, I don't consider it hunting. If a ban were proposed, I'd support it, and not only on the grounds of disease prevention.
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Originally posted by MattM37 View PostI'm inclined to agree with Richard's point about a ban on one form of hunting opening the door to doubt about any form of hunting -- but I actually think that the high-fence/game farm issue should be separate from the other things we tolerate within our ranks. Simply put, I don't consider it hunting. If a ban were proposed, I'd support it, and not only on the grounds of disease prevention.
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Originally posted by MattM37 View PostI'm inclined to agree with Richard's point about a ban on one form of hunting opening the door to doubt about any form of hunting -- but I actually think that the high-fence/game farm issue should be separate from the other things we tolerate within our ranks. Simply put, I don't consider it hunting. If a ban were proposed, I'd support it, and not only on the grounds of disease prevention.
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Yeah.. I don't want it to be illegal. I just want people to be ridiculed when they brag about it re big game.
I've never done one, but canned pheasant hunts are pretty popular. Bird hunting isn't big here in SE PA, but the guys who do it get a lot of game farm pheasants under their dogs noses to keep them primed. That's never struck me as wrong. Is there a difference?
I do agree that with ungulates its the transport that has caused the trouble... but even then. It speeds up the spread, but by how much? Young bucks can really get moving once its time to stake out new territory.
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Originally posted by MattM37 View PostI'm inclined to agree with Richard's point about a ban on one form of hunting opening the door to doubt about any form of hunting -- but I actually think that the high-fence/game farm issue should be separate from the other things we tolerate within our ranks. Simply put, I don't consider it hunting. If a ban were proposed, I'd support it, and not only on the grounds of disease prevention.
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Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View PostIt would be wonderful if we could get those who agree with HF hunting to willingly change their minds and fall in line with the rest of us, and then maybe there would be economic nonsupport ! But I am not holding my breath until I pass out.
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Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View PostIt would be wonderful if we could get those who agree with HF hunting to willingly change their minds and fall in line with the rest of us, and then maybe there would be economic nonsupport ! But I am not holding my breath until I pass out.
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Originally posted by jcarlin View PostYeah.. I don't want it to be illegal. I just want people to be ridiculed when they brag about it re big game.
I've never done one, but canned pheasant hunts are pretty popular. Bird hunting isn't big here in SE PA, but the guys who do it get a lot of game farm pheasants under their dogs noses to keep them primed. That's never struck me as wrong. Is there a difference?
I do agree that with ungulates its the transport that has caused the trouble... but even then. It speeds up the spread, but by how much? Young bucks can really get moving once its time to stake out new territory.
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