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What do you think about sewing up bullet holes or accidental knife cuts in pelts (fox, coyote, etc.)? it seems to be a pretty widely-accepted practice, but I've always thought it a bit dishonest, though I confess I've done it on occasion.

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  • What do you think about sewing up bullet holes or accidental knife cuts in pelts (fox, coyote, etc.)? it seems to be a pretty widely-accepted practice, but I've always thought it a bit dishonest, though I confess I've done it on occasion.

    What do you think about sewing up bullet holes or accidental knife cuts in pelts (fox, coyote, etc.)? it seems to be a pretty widely-accepted practice, but I've always thought it a bit dishonest, though I confess I've done it on occasion.

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    Not to be a smart___, but taxidermists sew up a lot more than a hole when doing a mount, so I wouldn't be concerned with the dishonest part. I see nothing wrong with it, but on something with long fur I would just leave the hole. Some people put a patch over it while drying so that it is held together and then removed(still a hole, but it looks more like a straight cut than a hole).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JM View Post
      Not to be a smart___, but taxidermists sew up a lot more than a hole when doing a mount, so I wouldn't be concerned with the dishonest part. I see nothing wrong with it, but on something with long fur I would just leave the hole. Some people put a patch over it while drying so that it is held together and then removed(still a hole, but it looks more like a straight cut than a hole).
      That's a good point JM. If holes are no big deal though, why do fur-buyers usually dock the price of the pelt when they see one (in my experience)? That's the part that always seemed a bit dishonest - trying to slip something that would affect the price for the pelt past them. Maybe I'm completely off-base though. It sure wouldn't be the first time. Lol

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JM View Post
        Not to be a smart___, but taxidermists sew up a lot more than a hole when doing a mount, so I wouldn't be concerned with the dishonest part. I see nothing wrong with it, but on something with long fur I would just leave the hole. Some people put a patch over it while drying so that it is held together and then removed(still a hole, but it looks more like a straight cut than a hole).
        Well. If I was buying hides I wouldn't want holes in them either I suppose. I have never sold hides. I always give them to a family member(I usually skin them out and freeze since he lives far away). He cleans them up and sells them and I've always trusted him with my split.

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        • #5
          In that business I think sewing up holes is more or less expected. Some hunters and trappers make it a practice, others do not. Most fur buyers I've watched randomly check at least a few of your hides. If there is too much of that the price is adjusted. It's a cost of doing business.

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          • #6
            I didn't think there was a market for fur anymore, how much can you get for a typical coon or muskrat hide?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by woodcockpro View Post
              I didn't think there was a market for fur anymore, how much can you get for a typical coon or muskrat hide?
              Prices vary on quality/size. Fur markets are down. A recent local auction showed that you'll probably get $2-5 each muskrat and $5-8 for raccoon.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by woodcockpro View Post
                I didn't think there was a market for fur anymore, how much can you get for a typical coon or muskrat hide?
                That's a shame really that prices are so low.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by woodcockpro View Post
                  I didn't think there was a market for fur anymore, how much can you get for a typical coon or muskrat hide?
                  Right now prices are pretty much garbage, except for fox, coyotes and the exotics like wolf and lynx cat (the fur trade term for high-dollar western bobcat). JM's pretty close on the prices for muskrat and coon here in the Midwest. Compare that with the prices paid early in the 2013-14 season, when I averaged over $20 apiece for coons, and rats averaged $10 or more apiece. A guy could actually make some money at those prices. But of course they didn't last - that's the way of the market. I didn't even trap this past season, and I probably won't until prices rebound enough so that I at least break even.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JM View Post
                    Not to be a smart___, but taxidermists sew up a lot more than a hole when doing a mount, so I wouldn't be concerned with the dishonest part. I see nothing wrong with it, but on something with long fur I would just leave the hole. Some people put a patch over it while drying so that it is held together and then removed(still a hole, but it looks more like a straight cut than a hole).
                    A good fur buyer is going to notice a hole whether it is sewn or left alone.

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                    • #11
                      Is there a method of sewing a hide so that it's not noticeable?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by charlie elk View Post
                        Is there a method of sewing a hide so that it's not noticeable?
                        If you're selling the hides "green", as I do, then yes. If you're moderately handy with a needle and thread you can stitch up all but the most gaping holes so that they're invisible under the fur. If you're selling stretched-and-dried pelts that are inside-out so that the leather is visible, then probably not. Just this year my brother shot a coyote with a muzzleloader and blew a 4" hole out the far side. I sewed it up and he got $40 for it (not stretched-and-dried), so I'm sure they didn't see anything.

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                        • #13
                          I think it is dishonest if it's a case of misrepresenting the condition of the fur to an unsuspecting buyer.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by charlie elk View Post
                            I think it is dishonest if it's a case of misrepresenting the condition of the fur to an unsuspecting buyer.
                            I know, that's what I've always felt. But literally every trapper or predator hunter I've met does it.

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                            • #15
                              Hi...


                              There is nothing wrong with trying to make your pelts look as good as possible. By all means, sew up holes which might otherwise detract from the fur's value...!!

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