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Why do so many hunters/outdoorsmen hate coyotes? I will admit that I don't appreciate it when a pack invades my hunting property and starts spooking/killing deer or other game. And of course livestock/pet depredation is always unacceptable. But when

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  • Why do so many hunters/outdoorsmen hate coyotes? I will admit that I don't appreciate it when a pack invades my hunting property and starts spooking/killing deer or other game. And of course livestock/pet depredation is always unacceptable. But when

    Why do so many hunters/outdoorsmen hate coyotes? I will admit that I don't appreciate it when a pack invades my hunting property and starts spooking/killing deer or other game. And of course livestock/pet depredation is always unacceptable. But when it comes right down to it, they're just a predator, same as us. I have hunted and trapped them most of my life, so I'm not some coyote-hugger, but I've never understood why many people loathe them so much, often to the point of trying to totally wipe them off the landscape. I have never pursued a quarry more worthy of respect, whitetail deer and turkeys included.

  • PigHunter
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    Originally posted by jhjimbo View Post
    Where are all these members from 2,3 or 4 years ago ?
    Jimbo, as you can see, I spent a lot of time reading and answering these old posts in my quest to rise to the top of the leader board. They had some lively discussions and for the most part interesting questions and answers. Charlie Elk started his own blog site and is apparently doing well. Hunt-Fish-Trap stayed until the previous site update drove him away. 6Point ocassionly posted in the last couple of years. But Richard is still around and seems to be the only one of the old school to have made it through the latest update.

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  • jhjimbo
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    Where are all these members from 2,3 or 4 years ago ?

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  • 99explorer
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    I once made a joke about coyotes to a rancher friend in Central Texas, and he made it clear that coyotes were not a laughing matter, because they are a threat to the livelihood of sheep and goat ranchers. He considered their presence to be as serious as any livestock disease, and that would never be the subject of a joke.

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  • Bob_3
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    Where hunters, especially in East Texas, may be shooting themselves in the foot by eliminating coyotes is in controlling wild pigs.

    "I believe that the coyote population in East Texas has positively responded to the increase in pig populations over the past three decades," said Dr. Billy Higginbotham, Texas AgriLife Wildlife Specialist. "Small pigs make ideal food items and there are places in the area river bottoms like the Neches that it is difficult to find coyote scat that does not contain pig hair. Again, the predation level is certainly not sufficient to control the pig population, but they are apparently using the young pigs as a food source extensively."

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  • PigHunter
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    Like I said, there's no hate in my heart for coyotes. However, I will kill them on sight because they are a detriment to several native species in my home State of Alabama.
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  • PigHunter
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    When I was a teen, there were plenty of wild quail in Alabama. I haven't seen any in decades. The coyote is not native to Alabama and is probably part of the reason.

    "Coyotes pose no direct threat to humans, but their presence can be detrimental for farmers, ranchers, and wildlife like quail and wild turkey that build their nests on the ground. When coyote damage becomes a problem that cannot be managed preventatively, they must be exterminated. Relocation is not an option, as this only serves to move a nuisance from one area to another."

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  • PigHunter
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    Originally posted by Josey View Post
    I agree with the postee; coyotes deserve a lot more respect. I had just gotten into my treestand for a nice block of deer hunting time when this coyote strolls up, sniffs beneath my stand (I had just sat down), and then strolled over to my mock scrape, where she then proceeded to urinate. I had a momentary thought of sticking her with an arrow, but I just sat there and watched all of this in awe. This encounter was worth the trip to the stand.
    I would have tried to kill it

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  • PigHunter
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    Originally posted by HuntingEditor View Post
    This is a great question, and one that's perplexed me, too. When I was a kid, we shot every coyote on sight - regardless of season or sport. My dad would have let almost any other animal walk, but coyotes were different. Fast forward all these years, and I'm much the same way, even though I agree with everyone who says they deserve better, I have a grudge against coyotes that is only satisfied when I sling lead their way. I think our antipathy to coyotes comes from something very deep and ancient. These were the animals that didn't accept the social contract that domestic dogs did - trading their wildness for a warm bed and a food bowl. We've never really accepted them, or forgiven them for preying on the same animals that we do. Great discussion....
    - mckean
    You answer is too emotional for me. I kill them on sight without emotion involved. They are a detriment on the native ecosystem of Alabama and need to be eliminated whenever possible. No hate at all, but no respect either.

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  • PigHunter
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    Originally posted by huntfishtrap View Post
    All good answers. I think charlie elk may have hit the nail on the head though. It's the same attitude that leads people to talk about "their" deer or turkeys or pheasants or whatever. People thinking that they own wildlife is one of my biggest pet peeves. Even if the wildlife in question lives on your land, you don't own it, because wildlife can't be owned by an individual. I think that attitude also leads those people to resent predators taking "their" wildlife.
    I disagree with both of you on this. Coyotes are not native to Alabama and have a detrimental effect on all the species they eat.

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  • PigHunter
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    Originally posted by DSMbirddog View Post
    I don't hate them but I have hunted them a bit every winter. Pretty smart critter most of the time. I won't mess up a deer hunt to shoot one but they are a shoot on sight most times.
    I'll mess up a deer hunt if I can kill a coyote.

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  • PigHunter
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    Originally posted by JM View Post
    Let me start off by saying that I have always lived in an area with a pretty low coyote population...The only time I have ever had a major problem with coyotes is when they attacked/killed one of our dogs. I've known people that view coyotes as an "SOS" situation, but I do not really understand it.
    -Growing up I was always told that they were bad(and I believed it for a long time), so maybe that is a common occurrence? If you are told something growing up you will often believe it your entire life.
    The coyote is not native to Alabama and thus should be looked at as you would a feral pig. Their population should be reduced as much as possible.

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  • PigHunter
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    Originally posted by Kody View Post
    I have had many memorable moments watching coyotes while hunting big game. They can pretend to be king of the hay field one moment and are dashing away in a most cowardly fashion with their tails between their legs the next. They are just one wild step from our best friend, the family dog. That alone makes it difficult for me to be a coyote hunter. When one confronts my hunting dogs, which has happened, that is an altogether different story.
    I'm not a dog lover, so have no problems when dealing a deadly shot to a coyote

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  • Josey
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    I agree with the postee; coyotes deserve a lot more respect. I had just gotten into my treestand for a nice block of deer hunting time when this coyote strolls up, sniffs beneath my stand (I had just sat down), and then strolled over to my mock scrape, where she then proceeded to urinate. I had a momentary thought of sticking her with an arrow, but I just sat there and watched all of this in awe. This encounter was worth the trip to the stand.

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  • HuntingEditor
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    This is a great question, and one that's perplexed me, too. When I was a kid, we shot every coyote on sight - regardless of season or sport. My dad would have let almost any other animal walk, but coyotes were different. Fast forward all these years, and I'm much the same way, even though I agree with everyone who says they deserve better, I have a grudge against coyotes that is only satisfied when I sling lead their way. I think our antipathy to coyotes comes from something very deep and ancient. These were the animals that didn't accept the social contract that domestic dogs did - trading their wildness for a warm bed and a food bowl. We've never really accepted them, or forgiven them for preying on the same animals that we do. Great discussion....
    - mckean

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