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    I know lots of guys who fudge the squirrel limit around here. Funny thing is, they are church deacon serious about all other rules & regs. I promise I don't because I have all the time I want so I am in no hurry to get a bunch and I don't have to prove anything at my age. IMG_2470.PNG

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    IMG_2471.PNG Posted this comment there, copied it here. Thoughts anyone? I never care about any of my threads being hijacked so if you have any comment, by all means share.

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    • #3
      Hmmm. This is a tough situation.

      1. Humans are driven to hunt. Like a cat that kills out of reflex, we are driven to hunt. But we are in the situation that we are mostly fat and sassy, with high calorie food available for cheap-cheap. So the kill and throw thing happens. BUT...

      2. Those that do as in #1 are pretty reprehensible. Realize that killing is only a part of the process. The least of the process. It's a sign of maturity to hunt, but not kill. It may be a lesser experience, but get over it. We don't get to have everything just because we desire it.

      Also,,,do you even know what you are missing? Yeah, it's a little work to clean and store the game. But you will never have such delectable meat in your life.

      Get over it. Deer doesn't taste like beef, and gamebirds don't taste like chicken. Get out of the cafeteria. They have their own taste, and it's just different. Not "wrong.".

      Don't shoot it if you're not saving your own life, or you don't want to eat it. That's my personal credo.

      This might be more than my 2 cents...my apologies.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Amflyer View Post
        Hmmm. This is a tough situation.

        1. Humans are driven to hunt. Like a cat that kills out of reflex, we are driven to hunt. But we are in the situation that we are mostly fat and sassy, with high calorie food available for cheap-cheap. So the kill and throw thing happens. BUT...

        2. Those that do as in #1 are pretty reprehensible. Realize that killing is only a part of the process. The least of the process. It's a sign of maturity to hunt, but not kill. It may be a lesser experience, but get over it. We don't get to have everything just because we desire it.

        Also,,,do you even know what you are missing? Yeah, it's a little work to clean and store the game. But you will never have such delectable meat in your life.

        Get over it. Deer doesn't taste like beef, and gamebirds don't taste like chicken. Get out of the cafeteria. They have their own taste, and it's just different. Not "wrong.".

        Don't shoot it if you're not saving your own life, or you don't want to eat it. That's my personal credo.

        This might be more than my 2 cents...my apologies.
        Never apologize when you know you are right.

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        • #5
          When I hear stories like these it makes me wonder how common it is and how long it takes before the offenders get caught, if ever. Not including the idiots who post their illegal exploits on social media.

          The Kid popped a woodchuck out by our garden last week, when he came back in the house he commented how he hates to shoot them just because. It made me think about how back in the day the things were considered on a level with rats and cockroaches, any chance you had to shoot one wasn’t second guessed at all. I suppose when critters are plentiful it changes some peoples mindset to an extent. Not saying that excuses anything. It also seems the line gets blurry between game animals and varmints or predators. As much as I’d like to start coyote and crow hunting seriously the whole killing for the sake of killing just doesn’t appeal to me.


          I’ve been having a similar conversation with people I know locally about our bear population. It’s been about ten years or so since the DEC added our management unit for them. I still have no real desire to shoot one but their numbers keep increasing to the point where they’re more than just a nuisance. I’m not sure how many damage permits are given out to farmers but I wouldn’t be surprised it it rivals the actual hunting harvest totals. I’m starting to think I should take one given a legal opportunity but kind of hoping not to face that decision.

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          • #6
            Fitch270: The first time a woodchuck tunnels under one of your outbuildings and you get a heavy rain causing your foundation to shift and crack, you won't feel that conflict any more. Not to mention what they can do to a bean field. I shoot coyotes. Period. I hunt crows more out of tradition than any real conflict but I'm careful to limit the damage I do. Tried cleaning one once, puked my guts out. They say black bear is good, compares favorably to pork. But as I've said on here from day one. The only one who can pull the trigger on the gun you are holding is you. It's your call. I don't judge.

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            • #7
              I've never had a "overlimit" problem.
              By the time I collected a limit of anything, I was ready to go home.
              First, kinda like amflyer said, "If ya ain't gonna eat it, why shoot it?"
              Guess I was a always a bit on the lazy side. Cleaning a bunch of crappie (23) was a chore, even with an electric knife!. A limit of 37? If the wife and me both limited out, that's 74!🤯
              I've been in camp with 5 or 6 deer hanging. That's a lotta work.

              I'm NOT "shoot and toss" lazy. THAT isn't lazy, that's sinful. I have my shortcomings that I deal with.

              I also shoot vermin. Coyotes, armadillos, skunks and venomous snakes. Most everything else gets a walk.

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              • #8
                I limited out and put my gun in case, was sitting over in my buds dove blind watering the dog when the CO came up to check.

                Asked how many we got, bud said 5 or something, and I said I limited out so add 15 to whatever he said.
                Opened the communal cooler and that many birds were there.

                CO was dumbfounded. Asked about my gun, so we walked to my blind, uncased it and showed him it was empty and he checked for a plug.

                Just could not understand how I was done.

                Told him im in the shade now, drinking cold water on a chair. IM DONE.

                Finally dawned on him I was telling the truth.

                My goal, every time, is to limit out and shoot 50% or better w no cherry picking.

                15 friggin birds and a sunburn is enough.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CD2 View Post
                  I limited out and put my gun in case, was sitting over in my buds dove blind watering the dog when the CO came up to check.

                  Asked how many we got, bud said 5 or something, and I said I limited out so add 15 to whatever he said.
                  Opened the communal cooler and that many birds were there.

                  CO was dumbfounded. Asked about my gun, so we walked to my blind, uncased it and showed him it was empty and he checked for a plug.

                  Just could not understand how I was done.

                  Told him im in the shade now, drinking cold water on a chair. IM DONE.

                  Finally dawned on him I was telling the truth.

                  My goal, every time, is to limit out and shoot 50% or better w no cherry picking.

                  15 friggin birds and a sunburn is enough.
                  If you would have put your birds together IN THE FIELD here in Missouri it would have cost you around $400 each in fines. Can't mix bags in Missouri. I've seen the write ups with my own eyes. Whether fish or game, if you mix your take together and it exceeds ONE limit, you all get a ticket. Wrote about it on either here or F&S before. It was our UPS driver last one I seen get the ticket. And his dove hunting compadres.☹️

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                  • #10
                    No rule here. Never even heard of one.
                    And the CO never said anything to such.

                    They do however sit in the weeds and watch folks so proly saw the dog stealing em from my pile.

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                    • #11
                      Of course no law around when the guys a few blinds down are dropping birds at 50 plus yards and claiming to run steel.

                      The F&W area has rules about limiting shot size too.
                      And its gotta be non toxic.

                      I doubt it was bismuth or tungsten they were using.

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                      • #12
                        30 plus yrs hunting up there, maybe the old CO in the weeds told him to leave me alone LOL
                        Proly recognized my vehicle ( same color and type last 15 yrs or so )

                        Did notice most of the regulars are gone
                        Shame, was a fun group for a long time.

                        Change isnt always good.
                        One old boy, his dog died and it took a lot out of him.
                        Had some bad health before the pooch kicked the bucket.

                        Dunno whatever happened to him.
                        But he along w some others.....aint been up last few yrs.

                        I didnt even put in for the draw last yr, or this yr
                        Just not the same

                        New guys, some are cool, most are dipchits. Skybusting Youtube wannabes.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CD2 View Post

                          Skybusting Youtube wannabe
                          Hey, that's my CB handle. How'd you know?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CD2 View Post
                            30 plus yrs hunting up there, maybe the old CO in the weeds told him to leave me alone LOL
                            Proly recognized my vehicle ( same color and type last 15 yrs or so )

                            Did notice most of the regulars are gone
                            Shame, was a fun group for a long time.

                            Change isnt always good.
                            One old boy, his dog died and it took a lot out of him.
                            Had some bad health before the pooch kicked the bucket.

                            Dunno whatever happened to him.
                            But he along w some others.....aint been up last few yrs.

                            I didnt even put in for the draw last yr, or this yr
                            Just not the same

                            New guys, some are cool, most are dipchits. Skybusting Youtube wannabes.
                            Been spending more and more time on 24 hour campfire. Those guys run the spectrum. I'm mostly on the small game or classifieds. I enjoy the campfire but I've no desire to toss banter with those boys. Above my pay grade.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CD2 View Post
                              One old boy, his dog died and it took a lot out of him.
                              Had some bad health before the pooch kicked the bucket
                              His last name wouldn't happen to be Bojangles, would it?

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