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Who has bow hunted in a canoe before? (Charlie Elk?) My question is who shoots and who steers? Or does it matter when going doin

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  • Gary Devine
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    Check with your State's Fish and Game laws and regulations. It may be illegal to hunt from a canoe or boat. Good Luck!

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  • charlie elk
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    It does that on all my photos. Grrr... I'll send a message to OL support and see if they can fix it some time this year.
    Thanks for the recommendations I'll check them out.
    later,
    charlie

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  • huntfishtrap
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    hey charlie, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I've been a bit under the weather lately. I have 3 of Brown's books: Tom Brown's Field Guide to Nature Observation and Tracking, The Science and Art of Tracking, and The Tracker, all published by Berkley. The first two are great for the technical aspects of tracking and stalking game, and the 3rd is the story of how he came to acquire his unique abilities, kind of a biography, if you will. I would recommend any or all of them.
    FYI, I tried to look at your Chief Alex Moose piece, but whenever I clicked on it (or any of your other user photos) I was redirected to a pronghorn photo by an Andrew Maddox.

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  • charlie elk
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    He has several books out. Which one would you recommend?
    I have some insight of the Native American hunter/gather culture due to one of my most influential outdoor mentors, Chief Alex Moose. I posted a picture and short tribute to him in my OL profile section under the photo section.
    later,
    charlie

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  • huntfishtrap
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    charlie elk, I have never heard of him being anti-hunting, and none of his books that I've read have come across that way.
    He does ascribe to some of the Native American ideas about earth worship, etc., which were a bit foreign to me, but honestly I didn't find it hard to just skip past those parts and concentrate on the areas that focus more on pure woodcraft.

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  • charlie elk
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    That's an interesting recommendation. I think Mr. Brown on occasion has railed against sport hunting? Or do I have him confused with someone else?
    Some years ago his reliance on earth worship to track took him off my radar screen. So I don't claim to know a lot about him. But now I'm curious.
    later,
    charlie

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  • huntfishtrap
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    Hey MNwhitetailHunter, if you're interested in learning more about stalking deer (or anything else), I would highly recommend that you pick up some of Tom Brown Jr.'s books on the subject. He is nothing short of a genius on the subject, and his books are great reads.

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  • charlie elk
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    It's OK to make noise while stalking you just have to make sure it is the right noises with the proper cadence.
    In Oct deer make a lot of noise moving through all the fallen leaves and their noise is distinctive of a four hoofed critter. I imitate this putting the toe of my boot down first followed by my heel with a little practice this produces a double step sound much like that of front hoof then back hoof.
    Or imitate sound of a squirrel burying acorns. Use the toe of your boot in a side to side motion clearing away the leaves before you put weight on your foot. Of course deer do not fear squirrels, rather they seem to feel more confident when squirrels are going about their business.
    I am sure your Uncle has lots of tips and tactics to share with you. He is a valuable resource, hunt as much as you can with him and pay attention to the little details he might not even mention.
    later,
    charlie

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  • MNwhitetailHunter
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    I haven't given up yet stalking deer. That is all my uncle does every year. I did that last year (crawling towards the deer), there is a hay field at the end of a dirt road that usually attracts deer in the evening all summer long. Last deer season I was able to see deer before they saw me in a very dense cover of trees, this was after it rained a lot, so my steps were completely silent as long as i was slow. October is impossible to stalk without wind, especially if it has been very dry out, leaves are just too loud. early bow season seems like the best chance because deer are clueless.

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  • charlie elk
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    Deer are on alert for threats, if you don't appear to be a threat you can get quite close. In your "army crawl" example the deer became nervous because they rightly perceived you as danger.
    When stalking you must of course make sure your scent does reach their noses. I hang a frayed piece of dental floss on my bow limb this informs me the direction of the slightest breeze. Then I crawl, not in a direct line to the deer, rather meandering towards them copying the moments they are making. Such as feeding; I'll bend my head to the ground to imitate as I advance. With great care and patience you can stalk within 30 yards of feeding deer.
    50 years ago when I was introduced to deer hunting one on one hunting while on the ground was common practice. No one climbed a tree to ambush deer, there were some "stump sitters". When the first tree stands were built it was controversial because it was considered unfair by many hunters. MN actually had a law that you could not hunt elevated any higher than 6 feet.
    The art of the stalk is mostly lost on modern day deer hunters and worse they will tell you it is impossible to stalk into close range.
    MNwhitetailHunter your desire to learn lifts my spirits. Do not let anyone tell you it is impossible just keep practicing and learning.
    later,
    charlie

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  • MNwhitetailHunter
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    i have tricked deer before. I did this once when i came up to a field with several deer in it. All i did was army crawl from 100 yards away to 60 yards before they were too nervous and ran. So you are saying the deer are use to people fishing down the river and the deer just watch? i guess there are some things that confuse deer.

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  • charlie elk
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    In opinion deer do not have really good sight with practice you can trick them into not recognizing you much like the techniques demonstrated in the book- Invisible Gorilla.
    I have floated rivers in flat bottom jon boats pretending to be fishing with my long bow in order to find bedded deer laying on the bank. A jon boat makes a very good shooting platform. But you must practice so that you know how to place an arrow in a stationary target while you are moving.
    later,
    charlie

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  • IndianaHunter
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    I have bowfished out of a canoe. Me and my buddy both take our bows and we usally both shoot when on a straight path.

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  • huntfishtrap
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    I agree with charlie, shooting a bow accurately from any kind of boat is tough, and a canoe is about the worst kind of boat, stability-wise. I suppose it could be possibly to shoot well enough instinctively from a canoe to hunt deer, but only at short ranges.
    You are correct MN, deer usually don't associate floating objects with humans until you're very close. I used to run a canoe trapline, and we would often float up within 50 yards or less of deer, including big bucks.

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  • MNwhitetailHunter
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    Thats a good point Charlie Elk, i guess the deer would have to be perpendicular to the boat with 3 people in, unless the canoe was turned without spooking the deer. im guessing its up to the person in front to shoot most of the time...Heres a thought, Deer are good at seeing humans on ground and in stands. but when it comes to other ways we travel, they just stare for a few seconds trying to understand what they see, like when i drive an atv past them, deer will just look at me when i stop, so i wonder if they would react the same when a canoe comes at them

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