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  • Seeing a lot of New Jersey deer but no antlers

    I put out corn, sunflower seeds and bird seed.
    No bears to film with my iPhone.
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    The notice ‘This Area Closed To Black Bear Hunting In 2018’ should be a reminder to all sportspeople that anti factions have a very strong voice in our ability to be limited in our activities. We can not take them for granted and present ourselves as a dominate group ! Times and acceptance of our beloved sport are changing with accountability of the present thoughts of society (be it right or wrong) and we are now becoming the minority. We can no longer present ourselves as we wish and must find ways of protecting our rights against this growing unacceptance. Are there suggestions on doing this, or do we become our own worst enemies, spit in their face and worsen our position ??

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    • #3
      Originally posted by PigHunter
      I know that's discouraging. I've got deer feeding in my yard at night and see them eating on the property at work in the mornings. But haven't seen a shootable deer at the lease.
      We had a real heavy snowfall one day last week, up in the hills. Down below, it was rain or freezing rain. I hunted all morning and saw nothing. Driving the mile or so home, once I was down lower and everything wasn't covered with snow, I saw six or seven deer feeding right alongside the road. It was like a miniature, Eastern version of the elk moving down out of the mountains out West.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
        The notice ‘This Area Closed To Black Bear Hunting In 2018’ should be a reminder to all sportspeople that anti factions have a very strong voice in our ability to be limited in our activities. We can not take them for granted and present ourselves as a dominate group ! Times and acceptance of our beloved sport are changing with accountability of the present thoughts of society (be it right or wrong) and we are now becoming the minority. We can no longer present ourselves as we wish and must find ways of protecting our rights against this growing unacceptance. Are there suggestions on doing this, or do we become our own worst enemies, spit in their face and worsen our position ??
        PH, it is only rated flippant if it has no credibility regarding a credible answer ! Can we assume that is the reason for deletion ??

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        • #5
          Trying to come to terms with anti-hunters is like peace in the Middle East. It's irrational hate passed on. Facts have nothing to do with it. Common sense- nope, don't want to hear it. Biologists- don't trust them. Politicians who are in control don't care about right or wrong, only about getting elected and power. NEVER BE SILENCED AND NEVER LET THEM SHOUT YOU DOWN. Keep fighting Mr. D. You fight for all of us.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
            The notice ‘This Area Closed To Black Bear Hunting In 2018’ should be a reminder to all sportspeople that anti factions have a very strong voice in our ability to be limited in our activities. We can not take them for granted and present ourselves as a dominate group ! Times and acceptance of our beloved sport are changing with accountability of the present thoughts of society (be it right or wrong) and we are now becoming the minority. We can no longer present ourselves as we wish and must find ways of protecting our rights against this growing unacceptance. Are there suggestions on doing this, or do we become our own worst enemies, spit in their face and worsen our position ??
            PH, I am not saying what needs to be done, only asking questions as to our stand and our response to the situation concerning the anti’s affect with their voices which are attracting much support in their cause to stop some aspects of our sport ! I am not advocating that we should give in, but we do need a course of action to deter them from further success in their goals. The sign concerning bear hunting is proof that we are in a dire situation if their actions continue to cost us support. Is that not worth a fighting response from us, and if so, what is it ??

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
              The notice ‘This Area Closed To Black Bear Hunting In 2018’ should be a reminder to all sportspeople that anti factions have a very strong voice in our ability to be limited in our activities. We can not take them for granted and present ourselves as a dominate group ! Times and acceptance of our beloved sport are changing with accountability of the present thoughts of society (be it right or wrong) and we are now becoming the minority. We can no longer present ourselves as we wish and must find ways of protecting our rights against this growing unacceptance. Are there suggestions on doing this, or do we become our own worst enemies, spit in their face and worsen our position ??
              We are losing the battle of public relations.
              It is a sophisticated concept, and there are those among us who believe that it is a sign of weakness to care what others think of us.
              This is the result.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
                The notice ‘This Area Closed To Black Bear Hunting In 2018’ should be a reminder to all sportspeople that anti factions have a very strong voice in our ability to be limited in our activities. We can not take them for granted and present ourselves as a dominate group ! Times and acceptance of our beloved sport are changing with accountability of the present thoughts of society (be it right or wrong) and we are now becoming the minority. We can no longer present ourselves as we wish and must find ways of protecting our rights against this growing unacceptance. Are there suggestions on doing this, or do we become our own worst enemies, spit in their face and worsen our position ??
                If there are those who think the words on the yellow sign nailed to the tree are fake news, then this battle is already over and won by the antis. They have scored a major victory in their fight to knock us out of the woods, and with this success, they will not sit back and be satisfied with their victory. It will empower them to reap more results in their favor and with our non-confronting attitude, are we helping ourselves or them ? There must be ways that we can protect our sport without the simple response of saying they (antis) are of no concern, and especially after reading the sign of “closed to bear hunting” ! Their voices and actions are getting action !!! If this is not believed, then go to New Jersey and shoot a bear, I wish you luck in that little venture !!

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                • #9
                  Deer shift patterns routinely and we like to think some of it is due to hunting pressure, this is hardly ever the case. In most parts of the country the ruts past prime, but it's definitely not over. Deer naturally become more nocturnal later in the year, be on stand early and late. During the rest of the day still hunting or organized drives produce . Now is also a good time to use doe in heat scents hoping the breeding bucks will venture in to check. Although nothing is ever 100% these tactics and realizing deer rhythm has changed from when love struck bucks jostled for position of breeding rights.

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                  • #10
                    Not much you can do about the bear hunt. I know what I would do if I focused on bear. Screw New Jersey , there are other places to hunt bear, who knows you might even decide to make that state your new home.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
                      The notice ‘This Area Closed To Black Bear Hunting In 2018’ should be a reminder to all sportspeople that anti factions have a very strong voice in our ability to be limited in our activities. We can not take them for granted and present ourselves as a dominate group ! Times and acceptance of our beloved sport are changing with accountability of the present thoughts of society (be it right or wrong) and we are now becoming the minority. We can no longer present ourselves as we wish and must find ways of protecting our rights against this growing unacceptance. Are there suggestions on doing this, or do we become our own worst enemies, spit in their face and worsen our position ??
                      Pighunter can type faster than he can think.
                      In his now deleted flippant answer, he said he didn't care about bear hunting being prohibited in New Jersey because he was not personally affected.
                      He added that if hunting were prohibited in his home state, he would become a poacher.
                      Just for the record.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
                        The notice ‘This Area Closed To Black Bear Hunting In 2018’ should be a reminder to all sportspeople that anti factions have a very strong voice in our ability to be limited in our activities. We can not take them for granted and present ourselves as a dominate group ! Times and acceptance of our beloved sport are changing with accountability of the present thoughts of society (be it right or wrong) and we are now becoming the minority. We can no longer present ourselves as we wish and must find ways of protecting our rights against this growing unacceptance. Are there suggestions on doing this, or do we become our own worst enemies, spit in their face and worsen our position ??
                        That is a valid point PH. However, much of our problem is contributed to thru our own actions by slob hunters/people who daily supply ammo to the antis thru their own actions which puts all of us in the picture of being the culprits. One or two bad acts can be magnified a hundred times and that is a tough problem to eliminate, but needs to be for our own good.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
                          The notice ‘This Area Closed To Black Bear Hunting In 2018’ should be a reminder to all sportspeople that anti factions have a very strong voice in our ability to be limited in our activities. We can not take them for granted and present ourselves as a dominate group ! Times and acceptance of our beloved sport are changing with accountability of the present thoughts of society (be it right or wrong) and we are now becoming the minority. We can no longer present ourselves as we wish and must find ways of protecting our rights against this growing unacceptance. Are there suggestions on doing this, or do we become our own worst enemies, spit in their face and worsen our position ??
                          What the hell kind of request is that above PH ? What are slob hunters doing that is a problem with our image ? Have you not read the post by Jasont about idiot hunters on public lands on F& S, all the remarks from fellow hunters, the problems caused ? Is this all fake news to you, or is your comprehension diminishing again ? And these remarks are made by fellow hunters, not antis. Should that not open your eyes as to what is hurting our image ???

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
                            The notice ‘This Area Closed To Black Bear Hunting In 2018’ should be a reminder to all sportspeople that anti factions have a very strong voice in our ability to be limited in our activities. We can not take them for granted and present ourselves as a dominate group ! Times and acceptance of our beloved sport are changing with accountability of the present thoughts of society (be it right or wrong) and we are now becoming the minority. We can no longer present ourselves as we wish and must find ways of protecting our rights against this growing unacceptance. Are there suggestions on doing this, or do we become our own worst enemies, spit in their face and worsen our position ??
                            “ Crickets in the background” ? I was not going to respond and carry this into beating a dead horse situation. But, since you added your ‘cricket’ comment, I will !! And since you changed (edited) your comment concerning slob hunters from the ‘affirmative’ to the negative, that needs to be addressed also ! You limited your last comment to the careless use of firearms as only being of concern or discussion within the hunting community, as if that were the only thing that constituted a slob hunter. You failed to (apparently for your own purpose) mention that the slob hunter designation also included those hunters who trespass, hunt from the road, shoot from a vehicle, poach, litter and have no respect for any game law or the game itself !! If you think those attributes of a slob hunter are only discussed in the hunting community, then you are sadly misinformed, or borderline stupid! Until you become more aware of what a slob hunter is, and their affect on all in the hunting fraternity, my discussion with you is ended ! In order not to bore others on the site, you need not to bother with a response as to the definition of what is a slob hunter !

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
                              The notice ‘This Area Closed To Black Bear Hunting In 2018’ should be a reminder to all sportspeople that anti factions have a very strong voice in our ability to be limited in our activities. We can not take them for granted and present ourselves as a dominate group ! Times and acceptance of our beloved sport are changing with accountability of the present thoughts of society (be it right or wrong) and we are now becoming the minority. We can no longer present ourselves as we wish and must find ways of protecting our rights against this growing unacceptance. Are there suggestions on doing this, or do we become our own worst enemies, spit in their face and worsen our position ??
                              Slob hunters put bullet holes in deer crossing signs along the highway for all to see.

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