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  • So does this mean you can use Human Urine as a lure?

    Mtn. Goats are apparently drawn to human urine for mineral content?

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    How true some things are, I do not know. But, I have read 1-2 supposedly scientific articles that have stated there is no difference in the breakdown between human and deer urine in regards to aroma. I find that rather strange, but then I didn’t write the article ! It was stated in the articles that human urine has the same attraction abilities and I have no way of arguing against it !

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      If I pee on the gravel road behind my camp, it is greatly enjoyed by butterflies after it has dried. These may be the same butterflies that rejoice over the discovery of a coyote turd in the road.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pineywoods View Post
        If I pee on the gravel road behind my camp, it is greatly enjoyed by butterflies after it has dried. These may be the same butterflies that rejoice over the discovery of a coyote turd in the road.
        If you are diabetic and your sugar is high the urine will contain sugar - that is how I discovered I had diabetes, I saw bees around where I pee. Many years ago Dr's tasted patients urine to see if they were diabetic.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
          How true some things are, I do not know. But, I have read 1-2 supposedly scientific articles that have stated there is no difference in the breakdown between human and deer urine in regards to aroma. I find that rather strange, but then I didn’t write the article ! It was stated in the articles that human urine has the same attraction abilities and I have no way of arguing against it !
          I would say that might be true but only for the male urine. The female urine would probably be higher in hormones and that is probably what the bucks are looking for so they follow the correct deer and be with her when she is in heat.

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          • #6
            That certainly would provide for ease of transport...

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            • #7
              And a steady supply...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pineywoods View Post
                If I pee on the gravel road behind my camp, it is greatly enjoyed by butterflies after it has dried. These may be the same butterflies that rejoice over the discovery of a coyote turd in the road.
                Urine from a healthy bladder is supposedly sterile, but... uh, I reckon I'll skip that test.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
                  How true some things are, I do not know. But, I have read 1-2 supposedly scientific articles that have stated there is no difference in the breakdown between human and deer urine in regards to aroma. I find that rather strange, but then I didn’t write the article ! It was stated in the articles that human urine has the same attraction abilities and I have no way of arguing against it !
                  I am not sure Jimbo that the urine of a doe indicates when she is in heat, that scent I would imagine would come from a different source.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pineywoods View Post
                    If I pee on the gravel road behind my camp, it is greatly enjoyed by butterflies after it has dried. These may be the same butterflies that rejoice over the discovery of a coyote turd in the road.
                    Good observation Jimbo. I'm pre-diabetic with blood sugar at 107 at last test a couple of months ago. Never thought of the connection, but have been seeing the butterflies for years.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
                      How true some things are, I do not know. But, I have read 1-2 supposedly scientific articles that have stated there is no difference in the breakdown between human and deer urine in regards to aroma. I find that rather strange, but then I didn’t write the article ! It was stated in the articles that human urine has the same attraction abilities and I have no way of arguing against it !
                      It should be the urine. In humans a pregnancy test detects an increase in HCG from urine. HCG is Human Coriatic Gonatrophin (sp), don't know what it would be in a deer.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
                        How true some things are, I do not know. But, I have read 1-2 supposedly scientific articles that have stated there is no difference in the breakdown between human and deer urine in regards to aroma. I find that rather strange, but then I didn’t write the article ! It was stated in the articles that human urine has the same attraction abilities and I have no way of arguing against it !
                        Human urine is mostly water (91% to 96%), with organic solutes including urea, creatinine, uric acid, and trace amounts of enzymes, carbohydrates, hormones, fatty acids, pigments, and mucins, and inorganic ions such as sodium (Na+), potassium (K+), chloride (Cl-), magnesium (Mg2+), calcium (Ca2+), ammonium (NH4+), sulfates (SO42-), and phosphates (e.g., PO43-).


                        makes me wonder which of these is drawing the goats?? My guess would be the urea breaking down to ammonia(NH3)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bowhunter75richard View Post
                          How true some things are, I do not know. But, I have read 1-2 supposedly scientific articles that have stated there is no difference in the breakdown between human and deer urine in regards to aroma. I find that rather strange, but then I didn’t write the article ! It was stated in the articles that human urine has the same attraction abilities and I have no way of arguing against it !
                          If a person is diabetic they could be spilling sugar in their urine. That is how I found out I was diabetic - the bees would gather where I pee.
                          I have a cockatiel that likes to mouth the bridge of my glasses. I think is is after any salt residue from sweating. Animals can not get salt or free sugar in the wild very easily.

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                          • #14
                            I've been of that belief for a while, and have seen some approach curiously and most ignore beyond a brief sniff in the direction. That I'm aware of I've never seen a deer that was spooked by it.
                            My one anecdote would be a 110ish 8 pt (which is about average by pa standards) buck I shot in archery season a few years ago. It was out of a friends stand who is a strict pee bottle guy. But it was his Z backup stand that he hadn't used in years. I got down and walked only 25 yards away, but outside of the normal travel lanes for the spot. And a half hour later a buck who would have swung wide caught wind of it, ambled over, then spent a fatal 3 seconds checking it out.
                            When my buddy commented that he'd never seen a deer approach that side of the ditch, I admitted how it had gone down.

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                            • #15
                              This isn't news. Invasive species mountain goat population has been a problem at Olympic since long before I was a ranger there in the mid 80s. It's not their attraction to human pee that is the problem. They cause havoc on a biosystem that evolved without them. Last I heard the NPS worked out a compromise with the animal rights advocates to airlift as many goats as possible within a specified timeline and then start shooting them after that. The tree huggers were supposed to finance most of the airlifting. I suspect they did not live up to their end of the bargain.

                              Deer, porcupines, squirrels, mice, are all attracted to the salts in human urine. Anyone who had spent any time at all in the outdoors knows that. Deer at Olympic have been a really big problem at Hurricane Ridge and Deer Park. At Hurricane Ridge they hung around the parking lot in droves to lap up antifreeze that boiled over from motorhomes chugging up the 17% grade to the visitor centre. They'd stagger around for a while with tongues hanging out but same big bucks seemed to come back year after year. The development of enclosed cooling system has undoubtedly helped. Deer on Deer Park trail were actually attacking visitors to get at the goodies in their backpacks. I avoided the trail ... to avoid clubbing to death one of the furry basturds.

                              The Park Service has taken the misguided approach that removing human predation in the parks produces a "natural environment." As a historian and biologist I know that's simply not possible. An ecosystem that has evolved on this continent with human predators over the last sixteen thousand plus years cannot be perceived as "natural" if the human component is suddenly removed. That's simply ridiculous. It's entirely unnatural. Fake as fake can be. And boy, the Park Service did not care for me telling that to visitors! But it is the indisputable truth. Just not the truth the touchy-feely bleeding hearts in top management want to accept. They choose to ignore the Park Service's 1916 mandate and instead they attempt to recreate the natural world in their own image of what they'd like it to be. So now we're paying for helicopters to remove critters that historically (and therefore "naturally") would have been killed and eaten. Helicopters buzzing about the park with drugged up goats dangling below them is just so natural! Pffft!

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