My daughter will be twelve next august and would like to hunt with her dad on the youth hunt day. But I not sure what rifle to let her use? I have 30.06 or wincester 30/30. I want her to have the best experience for the day and hope she will take up hunting.
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My daughter will be twelve next august and would like to hunt with her dad on the youth hunt day. But I not sure what rifle to
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remington makes some great reduced recoil loads for the 30-06. She may find the recoil a little stiff with standard loads. Range will be limited with the 30-30, but if you are hunting thick stuff where shots are usually short, there is nothing wrong with that choice either. The 30-30 will likely be shorter, and balance better for a shorter, or youth shooter. So if you hunt open country, go for the -06 with reduced recoil loads, or if you hunt the brush, go with the 30-30.
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A 150 round nose 30-30 bullet leaving the muzzle of the lever gun at 2200 fps is traveling 1325 fps at three hundred yards and has dropped 43 inches from the muzzle. A 10 mph wind will have moved the bullet over 23 inches by the 300 yard mark. A 30 mph wind will have moved that bullet over 76 inches. At three hundred hards the hard working 30-30 doesn't generate much muzzle energy meaning it will not be much of an effective killer. A bullet taking that much time to get to that distance is unlikely to get where you are aiming. Give the old 30-30 some respect as one of the classics but allow her to do what she does best at ranges that allow her to perform well and kill game effectively.
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Wow! I get a negative comment report for quoting the data on velocities and drop and wind deflection on the round nose .308 bullet out of a 30-30. You have a problem if you allow your opinions to form in complete contradiction to the laws of physics. the bullet is moving that slow and does not generate much energy and your wishing it to be otherwise or having it beat the odds and kill something at such ranges does not change the fact that is a poor choice for 300 yard shots. Do expect it to perform at such ranges is clearly poor judgement and shows a complete lack of respect for the animal in you sights.
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I agree with Sucngas; if you expect shots over 100 yards go with the '06 with the managed recoil loads. My wife shoots those in her 308 and they are awesome out to 200yds or so, and that's far enough for a beginner to be taking shots, without a lot of practice. Remington is trying to get us all hooked on the reduced recoil loads so they sell most at a loss or at their cost. They are often some of the most reasonably priced hunting loads on the shelf. They use lower power charges and lighter bullets that are specially designed to expand at lower velocities (130 grain in 308 if I remember correctly). Great stuff, wish I thought of it. The 30-30 would probably be a lighter gun and better for brush, a 243 or 260 would be my choice if you were starting from scratch.
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