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  • How many people here shoot at animals further than 500 yards away? If not, then why are so many people addicted to 'Flat Shootin

    How many people here shoot at animals further than 500 yards away? If not, then why are so many people addicted to 'Flat Shooting Rifles'?

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    -I've taken a few shots at 500+ yards (coyotes).
    -I think people just like the idea of a flat shooting rifle(When your looking at an animal you are looking directly at it, so you may not always notice the branch a few inches above your line of sight that a bullet may hit). A flat shooting rifle allows for short range shots, but if you ever want to take a 500+ yard shot you would have the ability to.
    -Personally I like shooting my .30-30 (round bullet) for that reason. I'm not able to take those long shots which I feel would take away from the hunt. I limit myself to about 150 yards now, and it would have to be a big buck(not about antlers for me, but they are always a nice bonus)/need meat in freezer for me to shoot that far.

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    • #3
      As far as looking directly at an animal, I believe the term is point blank range. Most people give this as a point of impact not more than 3" above or below the line of sight.
      For a .308, this is about 265 yards. For a 7MM Mag, its about 310 yards.
      So, if a person wants to deal with a shoulder blasting, ear traumatising cannon, he can gain around 40 more yards before having to elevate his rifle for the shot.
      I don't believe the magnums are worth it.

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      • #4
        The farthest shot I've ever taken at an animal was about 210 yards, on a deer. Quite frankly, I don't own a gun capable of ethical accuracy on deer sized game beyond about 250, and that only in absolutely perfect conditions. On smaller varmints, I probably have a long of about 150, since I basically only use rimfires.
        As far as an addiction to flat shooting rifle goes, I don't have a problem with some people's obsession with them, as long as they realize that having a flat shooting gun means they CAN take longer shots, it doesn't necessarily mean they SHOULD.

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        • #5
          nothing wrong with flat shooting rifles.The gun is only as good as the shooters ability .As me my furthest shot is only 204 yds with 30.06 150gr hornady (whitetail),most of my shots are less than 100yds but when hunt with a gun my set up is like Im bow hunting,close is good no reasons for missing or injuring the animal (you owe them that).But I imagine out west you may need those flat shooting guns,just my 2 cents....

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          • #6
            All my rifles are sighted 3in high @ a 100yrds this puts my 243 & 308 dead on @ 300yrds. My 7mm WBY is dead on at 400yrds.

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            • #7
              500 is the longest i have taken on an animal, and the super "flat" shooting rifles aren't even necessary as long as you know your elevation adjustments..the toughest part is judging the wind. for your average bullet, every 1 mph of full value wind will move the bullet 3" at 600 yd, and sometimes wind is blowing different diretions at different ranges

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              • #8
                Tyler is right, the wind is the greatest adjustment. I will not shoot more than 400 yards at a game animal, but I do like to shoot long on the range, and I know some fellows who do it very well. The upside of using the flat-shooting rifles is that wind tends to affect them less at distance.

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                • #9
                  500yds why not 1000 hey while we are at it lets shoot game at ranges that would require an out of state tag! Let's be honest very few of us ever shoot beyond 200yds and those that do are well trained and practiced riflemen or idiots. We like the flat shooters because we feel more accomplished punching those tiny holes in the paper at 400yds can we make those longer shots probably do we really need to NO!

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                  • #10
                    300 yds is my limit. I feel comfortable taking that shot if the wind isn't much of a factor. After reading Tyler Freel's latest blog I guess I would need tp practice longer shots for sheep hunting. His pictures lead me to believe that in the high mountains you can run out of stalking cover and time.

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                    • #11
                      Hunting in the American southwest a flat shooting rifle is a must. Pronghorns have vision that is like looking thru a 16 power scope and live in flat country. Many muleys live in sage and chapparal country. Nelson/desert bighorns live where you have to shoot from ridge to ridge most of the time. I'm not saying you CAN'T stalk these animals but with the short seasons and the difficulty of drawing a tag for them, you want as much in YOUR favor as you can manage.

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                      • #12
                        I think Tyler got to the meat of my question. Even fast shooting rifles have to be elevated for longer shots. Some of the magnums may retain more killing power at distances, but most rifles are capable of killing at distances further than most peole can or should shoot.

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