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ccdw laws need to be universal,and no state should be able to infringe upon the right to bear arms,whats it going to take?

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    ccdw laws need to be universal,and no state should be able to infringe upon the right to bear arms,whats it going to take?

  • #2
    The only way to make them universal is to do so with a Federal law. And I just don't see that happening, in our current political climate. I agree with you, but I'm not optimistic.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by huntfishtrap View Post
      The only way to make them universal is to do so with a Federal law. And I just don't see that happening, in our current political climate. I agree with you, but I'm not optimistic.
      It will take a complete makeover of the thought of our political people and I would not advise you
      to hold your breath until that happens ! I will agree that it is not fair or right that some persons are
      not allowed this right while others are, which makes those who aren't criminals in doing so. Our
      laws should govern all and not just some. However, that could also then mean that those who can
      do things now, would not be able to have that right if you looked at it from the other direction!! So,
      to say the least, it is a touchy situation, though all be it, a incorrect one.

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      • #4
        Making the Feds make a law about it beyond "shall not be infringed" sounds great but is also fraught with peril.
        What one can give, one can take away.
        I'm kind of OK with it being a states or local issue, with the 2nd being the standard that needs to be met. Some courts exercise more jurisprudence, and some more activism, but it's still the way it's done.

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        • #5
          And for all you Never Trump folks. I get it, but I'll take his supreme court picks over Hillary's.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jcarlin View Post
            And for all you Never Trump folks. I get it, but I'll take his supreme court picks over Hillary's.
            You know my feelings about Trump, but I actually agree with you on the Supreme Court picks. The problem is that he just might start WWIII before anyone can reap the benefits of those picks.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jcarlin View Post
              And for all you Never Trump folks. I get it, but I'll take his supreme court picks over Hillary's.
              That is a very important factor, but is it enough ? I am not aware of what the percentage between pro
              and anti gun people is in this country, but it may become a determiming equation come November !

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jcarlin View Post
                And for all you Never Trump folks. I get it, but I'll take his supreme court picks over Hillary's.
                I'm neither saying it's enough, or that's its the only issue, but the courts are one of the longest term impacts a president can have.

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                • #9
                  Agreed. And it's not just states that make it a nightmare, but also all the cities/ local jurisdictions that try to enact their own regulations. I remember just a few years ago you couldn't carry a pistol in Cleveland due to a local ordinance, even if you were a licensed CCW holder in the state of Ohio! Luckily that got struck down by the Supreme Court, but you still see cities trying to write their own rules that infringe on our rights and contradict state and federal law.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jcarlin View Post
                    Making the Feds make a law about it beyond "shall not be infringed" sounds great but is also fraught with peril.
                    What one can give, one can take away.
                    I'm kind of OK with it being a states or local issue, with the 2nd being the standard that needs to be met. Some courts exercise more jurisprudence, and some more activism, but it's still the way it's done.
                    I'm usually a big proponent of state's rights and local governments, but each city/state having such separate guns laws just makes things too complicated in my opinion. I can be a licensed CCW holder in the state of Ohio, but once I drive into some city's limits I'm supposed to throw my pistol out the window. Maybe states/cities can retain some local control over guns law, but I think their needs to be some common law that specifies concealed carry and gun rights across state and local lines.

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                    • #11
                      We don't have a gun problem, nor do we have a gun law problem. We have a huge problem with those who use guns illegally. Fix that part of the equation and you solved the problem.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jcarlin View Post
                        And for all you Never Trump folks. I get it, but I'll take his supreme court picks over Hillary's.
                        No truer words said jacrlin, and it is the fact that the Supreme Court could nulify the 2nd ammdendent too
                        damn quick that makes this election so serious and terrifying to me !!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jcarlin View Post
                          Making the Feds make a law about it beyond "shall not be infringed" sounds great but is also fraught with peril.
                          What one can give, one can take away.
                          I'm kind of OK with it being a states or local issue, with the 2nd being the standard that needs to be met. Some courts exercise more jurisprudence, and some more activism, but it's still the way it's done.
                          It's a good point, but that can be handled state by state too. Some states have a pre-emption law on the books that basically states that no municipality can enforce stricter laws than the state itself. Unfortunately you're still at the mercy of your fellow citizens and the govt. they deserve.

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                          • #14
                            Congress is trying to pass a law to allow it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PigHunter View Post
                              Congress is trying to pass a law to allow it.
                              Call or write your Senators and Congressmen to get this passed

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